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Jan 16Liked by Daniel Bessner

Being a proud Thatcherite in 2023 is crazy

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For a sec I thought I was too high and misheard. Wtf

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I rewound twice, thought I had to be missing something.

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Jan 16Liked by Daniel Bessner

Danny, I appreciate when you roast your guests when they clearly haven’t thought much about material conditions. It is so common, and it mirrors what I do with the MSNBC-watchers in my life!

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It gives me life to hear you entreat these old farts on taking a stab at what material conditions could possibly affect the state of discourse or policy. They always seem taken aback as if you’re dancing on some third rail they’ve reflexively avoided.

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Jan 17Liked by Daniel Bessner

You know the back-and-forth is getting good when Danny starts using his “as a historian I disagree” voice.

I do enjoy these type of episodes, especially because Danny has a talent for negotiating around all of the rhetorical cliches and asking how their theories explain the material reality around us.

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Jan 16Liked by Daniel Bessner

Sounds like a great philosophy to have if I want to get invited to all the right parties.

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What zero materialism will do to a mf

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Jan 18Liked by Daniel Bessner, American Prestige

This was a fantastic episode, not so much because of the guest but because of your interviewing skills. I did find his absolute imperviousness to your jokes to be hilarious. Maybe that's a British thing?

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Jan 16·edited Jan 16Liked by Daniel Bessner

Thanks for having John on Danny, I have read several of his books and am intrigued. They all seem to address (at least obliquely), the post-liberalism topic focused on in The New Leviathans. As a fan, I would love to hear you talk with John at further length about liberalism/post-liberalism, empire/post-empire and their discontents . . . Not sure that's how this podcasting game works, maybe the book tour rounds only allow for an hour.

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Jan 17Liked by Daniel Bessner

Fantastic episode.

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Jan 19Liked by Daniel Bessner

Danny, you're too romantic and too down on our Chinese brothers and sisters. No way we're in the mutual ruin of the contending classes type beat.

That's just the anxiety of being a navel gazing lib (yes lib, everyone born in America is genetically liberal, myself included. I don't make the rules) in the imperial core.

I believe the underlying ideology of pragmatism along with the economic challenges presented by the more rational Chinese model of state capitalism will force political economy changes in the US.

If the US wants to be able to compete with China, it needs a more interventionist economic model. Tax credits will only take is so far.

I could see a Dem Presidential campaign saying some goofy shit like "we can't break up monopolies anymore because we need large firms to compete with China, so instead, we'll buy shares in strategically important industries and direct them towards state priorities."

Or China could crap out before the US breaks a sweat but I doubt it.

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Just a stream of the most tedious mumblings of non-answers I’ve heard in a long time. Not a single coherent thought expressed in more than an hour of pretty straightforward questions

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Jan 17·edited Jan 17

Tiresome gargoyle of a guest, big who care. Oxford explaining haltingly how and why his dick fell out his pants 30 years ago

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Jan 17Liked by Daniel Bessner

But AP best pod undefeated and Danny did good in the context

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😂

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This guy could clean the white house press corps' clock

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Old fashioned Tory pessimism is always entertaining

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Guy was a pretentious asshole and unironic Thatcherite and sidestepped literally every question but still enjoyed this one 😭

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